And while Musa seemed to be willing to freely share what he says he doesn't have, he was much more conservative when discussing what is shown in that video. It shows Budna's kidnappers beating and restraining a man - and showing no fear at all of the police station just one hundred feet away. At the time, they had also blocked the street, known as Hospital Crescent.
The press asked him about the impunity the kidnappers displayed:
Reporter
"Because they felt that they were going to get away with it. It was done. A stone's throw away from the police station."
Kareem Musa, Minister of Home Affairs
"Exactly how do you think you will get away with that?"
Reporter
"Because you're the police!"
Kareem Musa, Minister of Home Affairs
"No no no no how do you think you can get away with something like that?"
Reporter
"How can a civilian wave away a police officer if he claimed, according to Budna, that he was a police officer."
Kareem Musa, Minister of Home Affairs
"You're asking me to speculate Marisol. These things are going to come out in the investigation and in the independent investigation.I can't say who that police officer saw and what was said between them."
Reporter
"What if the investigation finds that police officers are implicated in this incident?"
Kareem Musa, Minister of Home Affairs
"Well, the heads have to roll Paul, absolutely heads have to roll. And I think the Commissioner of Police said that, too. Let the chips fall where they may."
Reporter
"Even if it is the Compol who directed it?"
Kareem Musa, Minister of Home Affairs
"I am not even getting into accusations like that Marisol, that's some dangerous accusations. Heads will have to roll no matter who it is. Whoever is involved in that. Of course."
