And we also spoke to both those transitional ministers about their. Former Cabinet Colleague Jose Mai. He didn't show up for today's house meeting, so we couldn't ask him about what the Prime Minister insists is a bad back requiring surgery.
But what did Minister Musa have to say? Has he seen his colleague ailing? He said he hasn't been able to reach him:

Kareem Musa, Minister of Immigration, Labor, & Governance
"I wouldn't be able to comment on that."
Reporter
"You're a member of cabinet."
Kareem Musa, Minister of Immigration, Labor, & Governance
"And I have personally tried to reach out to Minister Mai, but I haven't gotten a response as yet from him."
Reporter
"But would you have seen some signs of pain and discomfort?"
Kareem Musa, Minister of Immigration, Labor, & Governance
"But it's been quite some time that he has been complaining of pain."
Reporter
"And as the Prime Minister said you all would make jokes about it sometimes."
Kareem Musa, Minister of Immigration, Labor, & Governance
"Yes correct."
Reporter
"So you believe that in fact he had to take time off because "
Kareem Musa, Minister of Immigration, Labor, & Governance
"That is what the Prime Minister and I believe Minister Mai have said, I haven't spoken to Minster Mai as yet."
Courtney Menzies
"And you think that's a reasonable reason to resign? I mean, Mr. Barrow had a bad back for many year."
Kareem Musa, Minister of Immigration, Labor, & Governance
"I'm not going to speculate. I don't know the condition of Minister Mai, and that is something that you have to ask him."
Reporter
"Do you send him your well wishes?"
Kareem Musa, Minister of Immigration, Labor, & Governance
"Yes, yes, yes, certainly I will."