But Penner says the opposite: he claims that there were no safety measures in place at the time he went into the area and took the the incendiary materials:
Elvin Penner, Landowner
" Whatever area they were practicing or detonating these items, any child could have stumbled on that area just being on the wrong trail with the wrong ATV, not a piece of yellow ribbon tape, not a piece of red ribbon tape, not any sign, not even a disturbance, not branch thrown on the road, which would alert drivers, you know what, something is up ahead, be careful. Somebody could have driven right into that explosive, right into one of the holes where these bombs or whatever, they blew up, blew up. If that is not of concern, what would there be of concern? But that is not the major concern here. That is a safety concern that I was smart enough to not blow myself up. I grew up in that area. As small kids, we were running around there like it was a playground. It was a very, very often visited area by us, just for recreational purposes. "
